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--><!--#set var="title" value="How To Provide Feedback for The W3C Markup Validation Service"
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-<div class="doc"><a id="skip" name="skip"></a>
-<h2>How to Provide Feedback<br />
-For the W3C Markup Validator</h2>
-
-<dl>
- <dt>If your page doesn't validate, and you don't know why, or
- you have a question about
- <acronym title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym>
- or validation:</dt>
- <dd>
+<div class="doc">
+<h2>How to Provide Feedback For the W3C Markup Validator</h2>
+
+<div id="toc">
+<p>There are many ways to send feedback or discuss the Markup Validator:</p>
+<ol>
+ <li>If you need <a href="#needhelp">help on validation or Web authoring</a></li>
+
+ <li>If you would like to <a href="#errormsg">send a suggestion on a validation error message</a></li>
+ <li>If you want to <a href="#mailinglist">help, participate or discuss</a></li>
+ <li>If you want to <a href="#bugreport">search or report bugs</a>.</li>
+</ol>
+</div>
+
+<h3 id="needhelp"><a name="skip" id="skip"></a>Finding help on validation and Web Authoring</h3>
+ <p>Your page doesn't validate, and you don't know why, or
+ you have a question about <acronym title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym>,
+ stylesheets or validation?</p>
<p>
<strong>First, check our <a href="docs/help.html">Help and <acronym title="Frequently Asked Questions">FAQ</acronym> document</a>, as well as the
<a href="http://www.htmlhelp.com/faq/">Web authoring <acronym title="Frequently Asked Questions">FAQ</acronym></a>
@@ -20,21 +28,13 @@ For the W3C Markup Validator</h2>
</p>
<p>
The two most common problems are:
+ <a href="http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp">Validating pages with
+ ampersands (&amp;'s) in
+ <acronym title="Uniform Resource Locators">URLs</acronym></a> and
+ <a href="http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#script">Validating pages with
+ JavaScript: <acronym title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym>
+ in a <code>SCRIPT</code> Element</a>.
</p>
- <ul>
- <li>Validating pages with &amp;'s in <acronym
- title="Universal Resource Locators">URLs</acronym>:
- see <a
- href="http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp">Ampersands
- (&amp;'s) in <acronym
- title="Universal Resource Identifiers">URLs</acronym></a></li>
- <li>Validating pages with JavaScript:
- see <a
- href="http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#script">Writing
- <acronym title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym>
- in a <code>SCRIPT</code> Element</a></li>
- </ul>
-
<p>
If your problem isn't covered by one of the resources above,
you can send it to one of the following forums:
@@ -56,46 +56,105 @@ For the W3C Markup Validator</h2>
<acronym title="Universal Resource Locator">URL</acronym>
when you ask your question!
</p>
- </dd>
- <dt>If you are interested in helping to improve this
- service, by writing code or just providing ideas:</dt>
- <dd>
+<h3 id="errormsg">Error Message feedback</h3>
+ <p>If you think the error messages in the Markup Validator's result pages could be improved, or are not comprehensible,
+ you can send questions and suggestions to our mailing-list.</p>
+
+
+
+ <p>Before you send any feedback on error messages, we encourage you to search the archives for existing messages on this error
+ in case your feedback has already been sent, or answers to
+ your query have already been given. </p>
+
+
+
+ <form method="get" action="http://www.w3.org/Search/Mail/Public/search">
+ <p>Search the archives of the www-validator mailing-list:<br />
+ <input id="type-index" name="type-index" type="hidden" value="www-validator" />
+ <input id="index-type" name="index-type" type="hidden" value="t" />
+
+ <input name="keywords" type="text" size="33" maxlength="100" value="" />
+
+ <input type="submit" name="search" value="Search Mail Archives" />
+ </p>
+ </form>
+
+ <p>Once you have checked that your suggestion has not been given yet, you can send your message. To write an efficient message:</p>
+ <ul>
+ <li><strong>Add a meaningful subject</strong>: summarize your feedback in a handful of words;</li>
+ <li>If our system added [VE][XX] at the beginning of the mail subject, keep it.
+ Otherwise, please precise which error message you are sending feedback about;</li>
+ <li><strong>Give a URL</strong> whenever possible: If your feedback comes from your experience validating a page, knowing what page it was will help us diagnose issues much quicker.
+ </li>
+ <li>Explain your suggestion, or question, in a clear and informative manner.</li>
+ </ul>
+
+ <p>Once you have checked all the criteria above,
+ <a href="mailto:www-validator@w3.org?Subject=%20Error%20Message%20Feedback&amp;body=Validating%20%0D%0A%0D%0A[%20Add%20your%20message/question%20here.%0D%0A%20%20Follow%20the%20instructions%20at%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.w3.org%2Ffeedback.html%23errormsg%20]">send your message to the www-validator public mailing-list</a>.
+ </p>
+
+<h3 id="mailinglist">Discuss and participate</h3>
+
+<p>If you are interested in helping to improve this
+ service, by writing code or just providing ideas, you should feel fee to join or send a message to our mailing-list.</p>
+
<p>
- Please join and contribute to the <a
- href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/"><code>www-validator</code> mailing list</a>.
+ The <strong>public</strong> mailing-list to discuss the Markup Validator, Link checker and other tools is
+ <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/"><code>www-validator</code></a>.
+ </p>
+
+ <p>You can <a title="Send a message to the www-validator-request subscription handler"
+ href="mailto:www-validator@w3.org?Subject=subscribe">subscribe</a> to the list
+ (and <a title="Send a message to the www-validator-request subscription handler"
+ href="mailto:www-validator@w3.org?Subject=unsubscribe">unsubscribe</a>), or if
+ you just have a small patch or idea and don't want to join the list, feel
+ free to <a title="Send a message to the www-validator mailing list"
+ href="mailto:www-validator@w3.org">send it directly to the list</a>. But whatever you do,
+ <strong>always use the <a href="http://www.w3.org/Search/Mail/Public/search?index-type=t;type-index=www-validator">mail
+ search engine</a></strong> first to check for existing messages on a given topic.
</p>
<p>
- If you just have a small patch or idea and don't want to join the list, feel
- free to <a title="Send a message to the www-validator mailing list"
- href="mailto:www-validator@w3.org">send it directly to the list</a>.
+ If you just want to have an informal discussion with developers and users of the Validator,
+ you may also join the IRC channel #validator on the
+ <a href="http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml">freenode</a> network (irc.freenode.net).
+ However, please keep in mind that <em>this is not a support channel</em>.
</p>
- </dd>
- <dt>If you want to report a bug or log a feature request:</dt>
- <dd>
+
+<h3 id="bugreport">Bug reports</h3>
<p>
The W3C maintains a public bug tracking database known as <a
href="http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/">Bugzilla</a> where developers
and other technical users can log bug reports and feature suggestions
directly. If you are not familiar with issue tracking systems in general
- or the Bugzilla bug tracker, send your feedback to the mailing list
+ or the Bugzilla bug tracker, send your feedback to the <a href="#mailinglist">mailing list</a>
and someone on the W3C Validator Team will take care of logging your
issue as appropriate.
</p>
+ <p>Before you enter a new bug in this database, we strongly encourage you to check that it is not yet in the list of opened issues. Here are a few links that you can use:</p>
+
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/Bugs/">W3C issue tracking system homepage</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=Validator&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED">All active Markup Validator issues</a></li>
- <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=Validator">All Markup Validator issues</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=Validator;bug_status=NEW;bug_status=ASSIGNED;bug_status=REOPENED;order=bugs.bug_id">All open Markup Validator issues</a></li>
+ <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=Validator;order=bugs.bug_id">All Markup Validator issues</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/query.cgi?product=Validator">Search Markup Validator issues</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=Validator">New Markup Validator issue</a></li>
</ul>
- </dd>
-</dl>
+
+ <form method="get" action="http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi">
+ <p>You may also search the bug database directly:<br />
+ <input name="short_desc_type" type="hidden" value="allwordssubstr" />
+ <input name="product" type="hidden" value="Validator" />
+ <input name="short_desc" type="text" size="40" maxlength="100" value="" />
+ <input type="submit" name="search" value="Search Bug database" />
+ </p>
+</form>
+
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